Judith Regan Sues NewsCorp for $100 Million, Alleging "Pressure" To Hide Her Affair With Kerik From Investigators In Order to "Protect Giuliani" | Main | Liberal Writer Seeks "A Safer Space" Where She's Not Required To Offer Evidence And Logic For Her Beliefs
November 14, 2007

McCain Gets Slimy

John McCain appears to have decided to advance the idea that a Rudy Giuliani candidacy would split the Republican party. Patrick Ruffini has the details.

John McCain has a new quiz show-style game up on his Web site. It's very nicely produced.

It also makes news, showing how McCain is sharpening his attacks against Rudy Giuliani.

A user who answers "Rudy Giuliani" on question 7 of the game -- "Which candidate is the best general election candidate the Republican Party could nominate?" gets this answer.

The nomination of Rudy Giuliani would likely lead to the formation of a third party made up of social conservatives. He would also likely get "swift boated" by fireman (sic), police officers, and even victims of 9-11 who are upset with his performance. According to recent polls by Survey USA, Rudy Giuliani loses swing states such as Ohio, Kentucky and Washington against Senator Clinton and even loses Virginia -- a state that has not voted Democrat since 1972. Rudy Giuliani changes the electoral map in a way that makes it very difficult for the GOP nominee to win. The correct answer was John McCain.

We went round and round about this last month after a meeting of social cons threatened to throw the election to the Democrats. My conclusion then was that it was a bluff; it wouldn't really happen. Has anything changed since then?

Also, is John McCain really the best person to make an attack-from-the-right on Rudy Giuliani? I never really thought of him as socially conservative.

Point-Counterpoint [Ace]: I don't see anything wrong with McCain's ad. Reagan's 11th Commandment has always been more honored in the breach than in real life, and there is a plausible case that social cons would sit out the election in numbers high enough to guarantee GOP defeat were Giuliani the nominee.

McCain is, in fact, fairly social conservative, at least on paper. One senses from his answers about pro-life positions, for example, that it is neither a priority for him nor something he actually believes in in his bones, but on paper, he's solidly pro-life.

On gay marriage I don't know. On immigration-- which I suppose is a sort off social con issue at this point -- obviously he's not, um, a mainstream conservative.

I don't mind the candidates attacking each other -- after all, each candidate himself isn't going to lay out all of his negatives for you. And the idea that this weakens candidates in the general election... well, I'm pretty sure that Hillary! is ready to unload on any one of them when the time is right. I don't find it plausible that she might learn something about a candidate through such attacks that her own opposition research team didn't have three years ago.

They're going to be hit eventually. Might as well make it early. Get it all out there.

PS, Gabe is of course free to respond to this. Didn't mean to just grab the last word and call neener-neener on him.

Counter-counterpoint [Gabe]: I think Ace is right about getting this stuff out in the open as early as possible. Allah says this is about going negative. But let's be clear, it's not "going negative" to talk about the electability of oneself and one's opponents.

As far as McCain's socially conservative stances, I skimmed his positions over at On the Issues and must admit, he does look pretty conservative on paper. I simply may not have noticed it because the man completely turns me off for reasons having nothing to do with being conservative.

I'd hold my nose and vote for him if I had no other choice (or maybe a gun to my head), but I'm not looking forward to another four years of amnesty battles. I say four years, because I can't imagine that he'll make it to two terms.


digg this
posted by Gabriel Malor at 02:26 PM

| Access Comments




Recent Comments
qdpsteve: "Twelveteenth! ..."

ALH: "That poor woman, grieving her husband. God Bless h ..."

Guy who bangs all his food: "I banged out some spaghetti for dinner. Nobody com ..."

Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM: "Call me skeptical. I watched Senator Smalley runni ..."

Basement Cat: "(pours grammie a good stiff shot of gin through th ..."

Miley, the Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u]: "Yes, well, I'm going to be fashionably late. ..."

Hairyback Guy: "Great post WD! ..."

buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzion: "[i]665 Japan still had smoking lounges in their ai ..."

flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner: "RIP Green Beret. https://youtu.be/PX4Flhw0HSA ..."

Miley, the Duchess [/b] [/i] [/s] [/u]: "Peeps on the beast post  - wow. ..."

Aetius451AD Work Laptop: "ONT is Nood, btw. ..."

The Political Hat: "The Great Australian Cultural Swindle The great ..."

Recent Entries
Search


MuNuvians
Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat
Archives
Powered by
Movable Type 2.64