Intermarkets' Privacy Policy
Support


Donate to Ace of Spades HQ!


Contact
Ace:
aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
CBD:
cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com


Recent Entries
Absent Friends
Bandersnatch 2024
GnuBreed 2024
Captain Hate 2023
moon_over_vermont 2023
westminsterdogshow 2023
Ann Wilson(Empire1) 2022
Dave In Texas 2022
Jesse in D.C. 2022
OregonMuse 2022
redc1c4 2021
Tami 2021
Chavez the Hugo 2020
Ibguy 2020
Rickl 2019
Joffen 2014
AoSHQ Writers Group
A site for members of the Horde to post their stories seeking beta readers, editing help, brainstorming, and story ideas. Also to share links to potential publishing outlets, writing help sites, and videos posting tips to get published. Contact OrangeEnt for info:
maildrop62 at proton dot me
Cutting The Cord And Email Security
Moron Meet-Ups






















« More on Josh Marshall's Breathless Fakery as It Develops | Main | Mistaken Anti-Semitic Attack... Faked »
July 13, 2004

Ace of Spades Gets Results... Sort Of

Well, my second letter to Andrew Sullivan wasn't quite as restrained as my first:

How about stonewalling on the outing of gay politicians who aren't sufficiently pro-gay-marriage?

How , exactly, do you justify running piece after piece on sexual privacy -- Tony Hendra, Jack Ryan just two of your latest offerings -- and yet sit there silent while your gay allies violate the sexual privacy of gay politicians?

I don't get it. I don't understand you can be so brazen to think you can just sit refuse to comment at all -- in fact, you not only refuse to comment; you refuse to even state you're refusing comment.

Silence is an endorsement of these actions. Which at this point I have to take to be your intention.

If you support violating the sexual privacy of those you deem political opponents, then you have no right to whine about the violation of your own sexual privacy.

Well tonight Sullivan has a very begrudging condemnation of the practice. Oddly enough, he's not writing a big column about it; nor did he offer his opinion of his own volition. As he himself says -- "some of you asked." Well, why the hell did we have to ask in the first place?

Here's part of his statement. Notice how brief the condemnation part -- and we know he can write like a fiend about those who violate others' sexual privacy; tracts against this practice make up a quarter of his oevure -- before he launches into an attack on those being outed as "dishonorable":

Some of you have asked me what I think about the campaign to out closeted staffers for Republican senators who may vote for the FMA. In a word, I think it's wrong. The people perpetrating it are the usual suspects - people who are only truly happy when persecuting others. The viciousness of the campaign, the way it demonizes individuals whose own consciences are unknowable to any outsider, is a mark of authoritarianism and cruelty. You cannot force people to be honorable, let alone heroes. You cannot force people to have self-respect.

It's a campaign to force "honor," "heroism," and "self-respect" on closeted gays? That would seem to undercut the previous language about viciousness and cruelty. After all, the outers are just prodding them to have some "self-respect." How can that be a bad thing?

But, as Graham Chapman used to say, "Wait for it:"

I do believe, however, that those gay men and women who are supporting some Senators in this war against gay citizens are acting dishonorably. I can see compromises that are inevitable in politics - even on the issue of marriage. But the Constitutional Amendment seems to me to be in a class of its own.

We started this as a nice little post condemnig this practice. We seem to have morphed into a desperate times require desperate measures sort of vibe, haven't we?

Note the language, too:

war against gay citizens

Apparently we're in two wars: A war against terrorism and a war against gay citizens. Well! No wonder poor Sully feels so conflicted! He's signed up to fight one war and he finds his nation "warring" against him in another!

It's an unprecedented attack on the citizenship of an entire minority of Americans.

The anti-gay-marriage campaign, he means. Not the outing.

And then he prattles on about nothing, making no real point, seeming apparently quite baffled about his own opinion on the issue. Which isn't surprising, as he's clearly not really against outing these people, at least not strenuously. His unclear conclusion is a product of his mixed messages and mixed thinking.

So, there's your statement. It only took him one week and numerous (I'm imaging) readers' emails to provoke it.

And not precisely a clear-cut statement against the practice, as I read it. It reads like those horrid Howell Raines NYT editorials on Clinton's impeachment. He'd start of saying how "deplorable" and "indefensible" Clinton's conduct was, and then begin justifying Clinton's lying by comparing it to the greater outrages of his Republican pursuers.

I seem to remember Andrew Sullivan noting that those who say "I'm against terrorism, but..." don't really seem very anti-terrorist. They seem, rather, to be mouthing a condemnation that they do not much believe but which is required by politics, before more-ethusiastically ticking off the circumstances mitigating the blameworthiness of terrorist acts.

So, there you have it. Sullivan is against outing gays, but...

That damnable conjunction, eh?


digg this
posted by Ace at 03:02 AM

| Access Comments




Recent Comments
Seems Legit: "How odd, I thought everyone understood that electr ..."

rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices [s][/b][/i][/u]: "You’d think they would’ve come up with ..."

Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle : "MiG-29 has two sets of intakes Bonus hole. ..."

It's me donna : "270 242 To be fair, Elon did advise that there isn ..."

West Frisian Women's Auxiliary : "The red head gene mutation also enables them to dr ..."

eleven: "If there wasn't a steel re-enforced concrete wall ..."

SMOD: "DC_Draino @DC_Draino Think about this If Tr ..."

Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden: "[i]thus, his push to ship congolese lithium mining ..."

garrett: "What is the increased Mass of an Electric School B ..."

Thomas Paine: "242 To be fair, Elon did advise that there isn't e ..."

Skip : "Bet they won't get 10 years of use out of a EV Bus ..."

Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden: "[i]They handle 25% more pain than others, and repo ..."

Recent Entries
Search


Polls! Polls! Polls!
Frequently Asked Questions
The (Almost) Complete Paul Anka Integrity Kick
Top Top Tens
Greatest Hitjobs

The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
Powered by
Movable Type 2.64